Let me explain the scenario:
We moved into a place with friends of ours (at the time) in
December January under the agreement of us having a bedroom in their Townhouse for $350/month. Utilities included. We offered to help and they said $350 was fine. At the time, Kim also offered to help pay half of the Comcast bill. Nothing was ever said about it, how much we needed to pay them for it each month, nothing.
The agreement also was for us to stay here from mid
December January through the middle of May. Again, nothing written, it was a spoken agreement with somebody we considered our friend.
Sometime in February they stopped talking to us. They ignored us, complained, and even yelled at us. Apparently we didn’t take out the trash in the kitchen. Maybe forgot to empty the dishwasher once. Well let me tell you that we were always the first home and emptied out the dishwasher, did their dishes they left in the sink, brought in the trash/recycle containers.
The guy we’re living with is a total jerk and apparently has a stick so far up his ass its poking the back of his brain. I have never met anybody so anal in my life and he wins title of “Man with PMS worse than any woman I’ve ever met!”
Nobody can wear shoes in his house, on the new carpet, nobody can touch the walls in fear of the paint getting marred. He had a talk with me the other morning because of a speck of food we left in the sink. That’s anal!
Earlier this week they told us that we owed them $180 for our portion of the Comcast bill we never paid. My problem with this: they are trying to charge us $40/month (our half) of a $67.27/month bill for 4 months plus half for May. Do the math. My other problem with this. We were told to pay for the second half of
December January. Kim paid a full $350 which was $140 over what they asked for. Paid.
This moring I got up and left for work, they got up and left for work, Kim got up and there was a note on the table stating how much we owe them before we move out.
- $180 – Cable
- $90 – Gas bill (I thought they said utilities were included, they never came to us about this.)
- $175 – First half of May’s rent (Kim spoke to Sarah who told us that we could move out May 1 or May 14 and Kim asked if she wanted us to pay for half of May’s rent and Sarah told us no.)
This brings us to a grand total of $445!
Sarah stopped by quickly this afternoon. She ran in, handed me a letter Steve typed today and ran out the door to class.
Here is the entire contents of the letter and my take on it paragraph by paragraph.
Dear Kim and Ryan,
I was hoping that one of you would have been home this afternoon so that we could resolve this issue. Unfortunately our schedules kept this from happening. I am going to be calm through this entire manner unless provoked. First, I want to say that I am very disappointed with your ignorance you have shown Sarah in the last few weeks. Secondly, Sarah had asked you speak with me and you could not respect that. I also implicitly asked Ryan to come to me with any issues. Again my request was ignored.
I’m glad he’s staying calm, it would be a pitty if I had to get a lawyer and/or police involved. Secondly, it was never said by Sarah that we needed to go to Steve about anything else before we moved out. Thirdly, during my talk with him about the food in the sink, he said “… and I know there are some money issues to be worked out between Sarah and Kim, we’re here and I’m talking to you man to man, if you have any problems or questions come to me.” Never in there did he say for Kim and I to come to him if we had any issues, he told me to come to him if I had a problem.
In your conversation with Sarah today, you indicated that you did not want to come to me because I had a dislike for you. Kim, I do want to give you an A for effort but you statement was only half true. Being half true, the missing point is, I now respect neither of you.
(Remember, this is how he typed it, spelling errors included.)
He did have a dislike for us. He scowled at us, yelled at us, and never talked to us when we said hi to him. Disrespecting me is crossing the line, and being a jerk about it just made him look more like an ass.
The figure on the note and the statements were not an option we were asking you to follow through with. It is your obligation. From my understanding you are disputing a few points contained on that note. Again, make no mistake; they are obligations, not options.
When was it our obligation to pay for something never agreed upon? Had he come to us as a friend and not an ass we might have helped them out. When is it our obligation to pay for something we already covered in extra cash we gave them? Telling me I owe them something never agreed upon in a verbal agreement and never written on paper is outside of the verbal agreement and is non-binding and now will not be paid.
Now you are telling me that I am to be screwed out of half of May’s rent because you are moving out early. I beg to differ. That figure was set forth because of a verbal agreement between Amanda and you as to when you would be moving out. She is unable to move in early and because of this agreement so you are required to pay that portion.
(For those confused, Amanda is the person moving in.)
Lets not be hasty, it was agreed upon by Sarah and Kim (once again, verbally) that we could move out any time we wanted after May 1st and she didn’t have a problem with that. We’re glad to get out, and had they been more friendly we would have stayed until May 14th. Remember, in that verbal agreement between Sarah and Kim, that Kim offered to pay half of May’s rent and Sarah told her not to.
In addition balances are due on, yes another agreement and overages in utilities. You had indicated prior to moving in that you planned on splitting the Comcast bill. This is something you need to pay. Kim, you did agree to it. The other due in question, is because of the fact that I had to pay for Ryan to shower here, wash his clothes here, and so on. Out of courtesy you should be willing to pay for the usage because it was incurred by you. The gas bill almost tripled that month.
Yes, we agreed to pay half of the Comcast bill, and as far as I’m concerned, its paid for by what we paid extra for
December January. He had to pay for me… like I’m some piece of trash. Out of courtesy you could have asked, and once again, had you not been a dick, we might have helped. Again, utilities was nothing ever agreed upon in the original agreement. We were told by Sarah we could stay here for $350/month, final.
Also, part of the reason the gas bill was so high was to pay for hot water they used to run the dishwasher every night. They threw everything in there, pots and pans included and filled it up and had to run it about once every day. Take a few min to hand wash those pots and pans and run the dishwasher twice a week. The other reason was their very inefficient dryer, You could stick a load in and put it on full cycle (towels) and everything would come out wet. It took two cycles for every load of laundry dry.
Now leads me to the options. You may either pay the full amount as requested and move out Saturday, or you may pay for the Comcast bills and additional gas usage owed and move out tonight. Where you go is of no concern to me. If I come home this evening and you are here I expect you will be paying the full amount. If you have moved all of your belongings by the time I arrive home, I expect the Comcast and gas bills paid, room cleaned and key returned.
Woah, first off I’m paying neither. Second off I paid for April in full as agreed. April 30th is Saturday. You might have the right to throw me out, but remember, when our posessions get damaged, the police and our lawyer will be getting involved.
Now Kim, focus, these are your only two options. I will be away this evening. This gives you plenty of time to make your decisions and move out if necessary. If you are a bitch to Sarah in any meaning of the word, I will take it personal. Please heed my suggestion.
What happened to being calm? Focus? Now I take that personal. A decision will be made, we will not be moving out tonight, but either Thursday or Friday and you will be recieving no money.
Please heed my warning: If any of our property gets damaged, Kim or I or threatened or harmed in any way; the police and our lawyer will be involved.
You can take us to court if you wish, but remember, that verbal agreement isnt’ enough for the judge to make us pay a dime.